YoYo Screen Shots
We’re gettiong MUCH closer to a Beta release of the Website…so, FOR FUN…. I’ve quickly put up a little website with some screen shots for you. Do NOT post comments here like…crummy design…yeah ??? cos I’m not starting a career as a web designer that’s why !!!
Check out www.yoyogames.eu
Sandy
March 21st, 2007 at 06:12 pm
Actually, from someone that has had a career as a web designer, I think this is fantastic! It has a VERY professional look and feel to it. It is not bogged down with tons of useless verbage and images that distract the user.
It is straight forward, clean and well thought out. Great job guys!
March 21st, 2007 at 06:27 pm
Good job, layout is excellent. Easy to get where you want to be. Simple is most of the times the best, talking about the layout.
I suppose the “sandy`s home” tab will be some kind of “home” for the user?
March 21st, 2007 at 06:39 pm
Oh joy, we get to see something! This will win over the heathens… I mean anti-YYG crowd. :p
March 21st, 2007 at 06:40 pm
It looks nice, kinda similar to 64 Digits. I hope the website comes out soon.
March 21st, 2007 at 06:59 pm
March 21st, 2007 at 07:00 pm
Grr, why are you even allowing HTML?
[Random Kudos]
March 21st, 2007 at 07:51 pm
its great! looking forward to it
March 21st, 2007 at 08:08 pm
I was hoping for a forum to post games….It does not look like a community-type-place.
March 21st, 2007 at 08:17 pm
Sandy, i was looking at the Share page and noticed at the bottom “Lastest Published Games”. I assume that the Share page is going to be what Game Maker 7 links to when we publish a game?
Also, i noticed that the “Game File” says Exe or Zip. Going off of this, i’m assuming that we (members) cannot post things other than games such as tutorials?. I guess what i’m asking is, will there be a spot on the site where we can post/search for tutorials? The reason i ask this is because i saw a list of “Official Tutorials” at the Make page.
I also noticed that the Profile page has a guest book in the lower left. I assume from the name that this is per-member thing, will we have the option to disable/enable?
Anyway, enough questions.. i’ll wait until i get to errr….. ooh shiny.
March 21st, 2007 at 08:39 pm
Chronic…there’s a Wiki and a Forum in the Beta release, also we’ll be linking into the GMC Forum. Plan is before we go final to link all of this stuff up into somethiong we call the YoYo Games CoLab…so there is plenty of scope for adding non-games conetnt…just not on the games page please
Medusar..yes, the “Sandy’s Home Tab” is an example of what each registered user will have.
March 21st, 2007 at 08:41 pm
Can we post Gm5 and 6 games there?
March 21st, 2007 at 09:03 pm
Some interesting games listed on your homepage there Sandy…
“Sandy’s Bollox II” ……… ?
March 21st, 2007 at 09:07 pm
Looks great… very nice work. =)
March 21st, 2007 at 09:17 pm
lol, nice screens. You need some web design help Sandy :P.
March 21st, 2007 at 09:24 pm
The site certainly looks very nice! Any more precise date on the website, by the way?
Any chance you could make it possible to expand the screenshots?
March 21st, 2007 at 09:28 pm
I was looking at a screen and noticed something. You use Internet Explorer, don’t you? Use Mozilla FireFox, then the fox spirits will hunt you no more - I mean, your internet will be better.
March 21st, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Hey, hey! That looks great! Man, I can’t wait for the site release. That’s all I ever wanted. I didn’t care so much about Gm7. I want the YoyoGames site.
Best of luck to you!
-Elmernite
March 21st, 2007 at 11:54 pm
VERY Nice. Looks a lot better than I expected. KEEP IT UP GUYS! (And thanks for the screenshots ;))
March 21st, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Nice, but there a little small. >.
March 22nd, 2007 at 01:12 am
@Sandy
The new Web site looks very nice. It sort of looks like something that a gaming magazine would have, and it even looks similar to those sites that host flash games. The screen shots are a little small, but I assume that that is because you’re only just the basic layout of the new web site, not all of the items on it.
Also, you mentioned that there will be a forum and a Wikipedia page. Will those be all linked together and from the main site?
March 22nd, 2007 at 02:36 am
It’s pretty sweet
I was wondering if there was going to be forums to like replace Game Maker community cause the new site is like the same thing but better!
March 22nd, 2007 at 03:23 am
Crummy design !
Nah I’m just kidding you
It actually looks a lot better than most personal websites I’ve seen lately - but you can always expect the kids to come along and say something bad about it
Anyways looks good to me !
Take all the time you need to make it perfect!
March 22nd, 2007 at 03:54 am
@Sandy
The new Web site looks very nice. Very professionally done nice work! I sincerely hope the new web site will open towards the users as well as the general public. Looking foreward to share & communicate with others.
CHEERS! CHEERS! CHEERS! to Sandy! As I observed the new site will be major change since the ol’ gamemaker.nl site. Sorry Mark, no offense. No hard feeling towards anyone seriously!
March 22nd, 2007 at 05:20 am
I hope support for Internet Explorer 6 is there as well, only around 50% of people using IE have IE7
March 22nd, 2007 at 08:36 am
Garion, simple answer is yes..we found a slight ie6 bug in testing, but otherwsie it’s fine.
Pear…good point, the GMC Forum is very rich, but it’s all contained within the forum software…this is now spread out accross the site and there is a new, simpler forum…so we will keep the old GMC Forum running for as long as we need to …possibly forever ?
Spikehead777 The Wiki and the Forum and the site are all the one login..you need to login seperately if you want to use the “old” GMC forum.
March 22nd, 2007 at 09:25 am
Will people be able to sell their games on your site as well ?
Will you tolerate all those clones and fangames people post ?
What about horrible games - because most of the games I keep downloading are absolutely horrible - people don’t take the time to use the full potential of GM - so this is why I’m worried about the publish feature, might end up with 300 published games the first day and maybe only 1 or 2 worth downloading.
YoYo should go a step further and encourage people to fully learn GM and make better games and PROPERLY test and add documentation to their games and screenshots.
Will you allow BIG release games, like say, an exceptional game that is 50MB ?
March 22nd, 2007 at 04:13 pm
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What about horrible games - because most of the games I keep downloading are absolutely horrible - people don’t take the time to use the full potential of GM - so this is why I’m worried about the publish feature, might end up with 300 published games the first day and maybe only 1 or 2 worth downloading.
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Yeah, let’s ban them!
March 22nd, 2007 at 04:30 pm
Nice site!!
I really like yoyo games, unlike some other people
March 22nd, 2007 at 06:15 pm
Thanks for that TINY screenshot of a site that no one wants to exist.
March 22nd, 2007 at 06:18 pm
P.S.: For a company you all are so slow, I have coded an nearly entire site (and tested) in ~4 days… This is going on for a few months or so! It doesn’t even look that complicated.
March 22nd, 2007 at 06:26 pm
Some people are never happy with what they get…
March 22nd, 2007 at 06:31 pm
ChIkEn - I believe that the best sites do not look complicated and are very easy to navigate and use. But the underlying structure is what takes so long to deal with. I too, have created several sites that have taken only a couple of days and I am very proud of them. On the other hand, I have worked on other sites that took a team of 15 people over a year to develop. So, you can’t really determine how long a site should take to develop based on screen shots from 4 or 5 of the pages.
I, for one, want them to take as much time as it takes to get it right. I know from my own experience that not completely testing a complicated website before public release is a huge mistake.
Oh, and to be honest. There is a TINY number of people that do not want this site to exist. Most of us are very happy to have it.
March 22nd, 2007 at 09:19 pm
Wow, ChIkEn! Four days? A complete site? No Joomla? I guess you are talking about a non-flexible, utterly useless, plain-HTML, c/p coded, one-paged, intechnical page, aren’t you? If not, excuse my well-intentioned comment.
There are many sites on the internet I don’t like. I just don’t navigate to them, and find that to be quite simple! Don’t be a ChIkEn
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 pm
It took me 79 trys to log in
Im getting very mad at this
thats why i havent posted in like a month
And looK! Fredfredrickson’s game is up there
why is it up there?
what other games do you already have?
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:38 pm
It’s like a BYOND site for GM games!
Will you be allowed to post shareware games or sell them through the site?
March 22nd, 2007 at 11:38 pm
I am confused Xxypher. Where are you trying to log in? All I see are screen shots. The site is still in Alpha, it isn’t even in BETA yet, so there shouldn’t be any place for you to log in to.
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 am
Verse, the site is for games created using GameMaker 5/6/7. We won’t be able to make games chargeable in the near future, so all games will be free to download.
Xxypher…duh…what’s your point…..? The games you see on the site images are some that we’ve uploaded for test…Fred’s game might or might not stay there…if you look closely you’ll see that some of my games are there too and since I haven’t gotten past page 12 of the Game Maker’s Apprentice, then you can be sure that this page is JUST TEST GOBBLEDEGOOK !!
Michael..I was told the “cool” way to navigate directly back to the home page in modern websites is to use the logo in the TLHC…..:-)
Dan-Dane :-)…. what you call horrible games are interesting to some people. My mum likes my games what I wrote (she’s 79)…not many other people do, but that’s not the point, the COMMUNITY will rate and review the best games and they are the ones that you will see on the home page etc…
Greg24 - see above comment to Daniel….met with MArk O earlier today and we agree we want a lot of things done in the weeks (not months !) after we launch the site, including much better tutorials, assets etc…as for 50MB…I would like the games to run in a “virtual console” …meantime 50MB is OK with me if it’s good….but if it’s 38MB of MP3 soundtrack……:-(
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:57 am
Sandy - I guess I will have to see the site live instead of the screenshots before I make my determination about the navigation thing. I guess I am just too old school to be cool
I like having navigation all layed out nice and neat.
Too bad you won’t be able to sell games online. But I assume that we will be able to post demos of our pro games. Then if people like them they can purchase the full games somewhere else?
March 23rd, 2007 at 01:52 am
Ku… Kururu thinks this is shiny!
Shiny shiny shiny shiny shiny!
But… I still don’t like it. All the fangames is okay, but let’s hope this doesn’t become like the Sims 2 exchange.
March 23rd, 2007 at 01:57 am
Cool! I think the rating system will be awesome. I mean with the overall score, graphics, sound, game play, story, and interface rating sections. This will be great!
I really want to see what those anti-YoYoers have to say now!!
-Cameron
March 23rd, 2007 at 02:18 am
Actually I’m glad that YOyo won’t allow commercial games to be posted - Otherwise you’ll end up with tons of horrible games you have to actually pay for downloading
There are many other sites that allow that, let’s not turn this site into a selling portal
As to Sandy, I would never use a 38MB Mp3 in my games, let alone ANY MP3 song, only a moron would do such a thing
38MB is quite huge already for an MP3 
March 23rd, 2007 at 02:19 am
BTW, I am working on a commercial quality game (that will use compressed external resources) I expect the size to be around 1 GB!
Hope that won’t be a problem
March 23rd, 2007 at 02:47 am
I have downloaded lots of crappy games from commercial portals. You don’t pay for them before downloading them. You pay for them to get the full versions. If you don’t like the demo you download you simply don’t buy the game.
If we are encouraging people to create commercial quality games with Game Maker, then I feel we should encourage those same people to market their games.
March 23rd, 2007 at 04:56 am
THis is some great news!
it also reminds me of the great games experiment
March 23rd, 2007 at 05:15 am
Kinda looks like YouTube…which is good, because I know how to use YouTube. =P
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:20 am
Is it that hard calling me Daniel? Besides, you do realize I was being sarcastic?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:52 am
One suggestion about the rating system: you should only allow members with more than, say, 10 posts in the forum to rate the games. Because if not, many people will start creating accounts just to rate his own game with a 10/10…
Another one: you should force the authors to include a screenshot of the game and a comment of a minimum length (like 50 words or 250 characters).
Another: show the game size (don´t make the author give it but add something that calculates it from the file on the server).
And a very important one: FORCE THE AUTHOR TO SAY WHAT VERSION OF GM HE/SHE USED. Even though there may not be many left, there still are people who can´t run GM6 or games created with it. Downloading a GM6/7 game and then discovering that you can´t run it is very frustrating and a waste of bandwidth for Yoyogames.
Oh, the screens look really nice
March 23rd, 2007 at 07:18 pm
Agrees 112% percent.
March 23rd, 2007 at 08:04 pm
Can’t agree more - and it is obvious that the community is mostly kids, some good but a lot immature and who still haven’t passed the “OMG OMG I r 1337″ phase of their life - And I can see how many would abuse the system and rate their own games (like is the case over at GMC :D)
I can see it now, the 12 year olds who think they are ontop of the world because they made their first GM game, asking all their friends (other 12 year olds) to create accounts and rate their game a 10/10 - You can never prevent that, and I’m willing to bet that some games would get rated based on the popularity of the user and not the game itself, you will see tons of rated games that were not even tried so we got a major problem here - Sandy it looks like you will have to force members to get one of those finger print scanners (or offer them to your loyal members) and each person who rates a game has to authenticate his/her print, and only once
And maybe you should increase the age limit to say, I dunno, 20 to be a member and run a background check and all, so we can keep the misleading rating systems to a low!
March 23rd, 2007 at 08:19 pm
I say rating requirements, descriptions, and screens are a must.
March 23rd, 2007 at 08:59 pm
Daniel-Dane…I’v ebeen having os much fun with you since you reprimanded me for shortening your name that I find it hard to use your full ID without smiling
Greg24… :-)…the funny thing is the 12 year old with 1,000 friends is very welcome indeed…take your point on fingerprint scanners though…they’re not that expensive …mayvbe we should raise the GM 7 price by $40 to pay for them ….only joking !!!!
Michael..we DO plan to make it possible for you to sell your games, but that is for the future…meantime we certainly encourage you to do this off piste…we just can’t provide a mechanism in the first release of the website to allow people to pay money for games…
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:05 pm
I ask again, is it THAT hard calling me Daniel? Or even better, D9? I can’t see the fun in my user name. Only the obvious :).
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:11 pm
daniel-dane…..it’s really really really really hard for me…you just don’t know me…I have a very wicked sense of humour ……
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:22 pm
BTW Greg 24…
..”38MB is quite huge already for an MP3″
..Oh yeah…you’re not old enough to be a Pink Floyd fan then ??
(surely shine on you crazy diamond” is bigger than 38MB , even at 256KB/Sec ?? or Led Zeppelin “Dazed and Confused” from the live album….”The Song Remains The Same”…or “Supper’s Ready” by Genesis on the “Foxtrot” album…..check out last.fm for BIG music tracks and make Spencer (one of our founders who is COO at Last.fm) really happy 
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:24 pm
Sandy!! Are the offices still opened?? Will they open tomorrow? We are trying to make an appointment for the offline registration but I can´t get an answer.
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:31 pm
correojon..no they’re closed and we have to do this from there as the software to produce offline keys is tied to Sophie’s PC
Sent you mail a few days ago as we wanted you to be the first person to experience offline activation 
Call Sophie on Monday ?….
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:39 pm
yeah, I saw the mail.
The thing is she didn´t give me any phone number, but instead told me she would call me. We made an appointment for today but she didn´t call…instead she sent me an email, but how was I supposed to see if I told her I would be at home, where I have no connection?
I really think you should give the phone number to the user so he can call when he is at the offline computer…we´ve spent the whole week trying to reach to an appointment and it´s been useless. And I´m at Spain, imagine how hard it will be when you have to do this with people from another continents in a totally different time-zone…
Thanks for the efforts anyway.
March 23rd, 2007 at 09:49 pm
Since you spell and write my name differently EVERY single time you must have some kind of weird humor ^_^. Hey, when can I come for the BETA?
March 23rd, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Why are you guys arguing over names - Greg is not even my real name it’s a nick
It’s not wise for people to use their real names online, I learned my lesson ages ago 
Now back on topic, Sandy I think you missed the point - I would never use big MP3 files in my games, in fact, it would be illegal to use any song in your games anyways other tan your own or royalty free - Most of the games people make thankfuly are small in size and don’t contain big files.
BTW you still didn’t give me an answer on my 1 GB project (evil grin)
Oh and about the finger printing maybe you can consider that for GM 8!
As to 12 year olds, well you know there are smart kids and some mature kids that are more so than adults
But the problem is the bad ones shine and are many nowadays - Now you have mostly kids posting SILLY things on YouTube along with the sillier comments left by their peers, the same will happen here. I don’t know how a ratings system can be made so it is as fair as possible. Maybe the people leaving ratings should be identified and leave a written review - Non coherent reviews should be eliminated. Also I do agree about ABSOLUTELY enorcing rules when submitting games. It gets to me that so many people on the forum post their games without a screenshot - And some people do but take a screenshot of the title screen - there should be at least 1 to 3 screenshots showing INGAME play.
BTW will there be a section for people to upload NON games for example applications, extensions, libraries, demos, etc…
March 23rd, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Well to keep off topic; Why is it so bad giving your real name? Do you have some weird name people would make fun of? Oh, I see…
March 24th, 2007 at 12:23 am
Um, I don’t see. I’ve been using my real name online for 12 years. No problems yet.
March 24th, 2007 at 12:29 am
sandy - Actually, you should stop with Daniel/D9/Daniel-Dane. I once got banned (temporarily) of his forum because I called him D-… uh, I mean, the wrong name. ;D
I also have a suggestion for the website. Maybe it’s already there, or has been said before, but I still tell it… Customized sorting / advanced search of the games (by category, by name, by author, by rating, by popularity, by size, multiple of these at once, …) Very useful in my opinion.
Thanks
March 24th, 2007 at 12:31 am
Well, as some knows Fred Fredrickson’s real name is Martin Crownover. I don’t think he calls himself Fred because he is ashamed of his name.
Kinds regards,
Daniel Nielsen
March 24th, 2007 at 03:55 am
Knock-Knock…………… Who’s there - It’s me Martin Crownover.
Crownover what ?
But kidding aside, there is nothing to be ashamed of a name, I’ve seen worse names.
Let’s just say I had bad experiences. Some people like me are honest and direct about opinions. I tend to say things as they are as I feel them. I once used my real name on a forum where there was heated discussion on HOT topics and I made a direct comment about what I think
flame wars started then I ended up seeing my name on posters glued to walls in malls, trees, cars and all over the place - Someone tracked me down in the phone book and started f*cking calling me and harassing me (makes me bloody upset just talking about it) so no more real names - Oh and Michael, if you do get to sign up for such forums trust me you would want to use a fake name 
March 24th, 2007 at 04:18 am
Thanks Greg, but to be honest. I have tried very hard over the last several years to stay away from forums like that. I also learned somewhere around the age of 8 that in many cases I am better off keeping my fool mouth shut.
Now have I been able to do that for the last 36 years? No, not really. But when I do mouth off I realize quickly that I had been pretty stupid. I often type really long forum entries going off on what I consider to be really stupid comments, but by the time I am done, I never hit the submit button. On the rare occasions that I do, I am later trying to get hold of a moderator asking him to remove my post.
March 24th, 2007 at 08:25 am
Michael let me guess - You’re married right ?
Well the problem is that I LIKE discussing hot topics and debates people would not dare to, and yes I have a tendency of being direct but I am honest about my opinions - I mean look at Howard Stern, he became a multi millionaire for having a big loud (and foul) mouth
People with strong opinions are targets - Hey give me 50 million $ and you can prank call me in the middle of the nite or send me all the hate mail you want 
March 24th, 2007 at 09:41 am
Alright, you have proved your point, and I think Daniel-Dane isn’t too revealing :P.
March 24th, 2007 at 02:54 pm
Greg, you must be psycho….I mean, psychic,
Yes, I am married. You do have a point. I have noticed over the years that loud mouthed oppinionated people do tend to make a lot of money. It doesn’t matter how stupid or idiotic they sound either. Any bloke with a microphone willing to talk louder than anyone else tends attract people that want to give him money and make him louder. All you have to do is look at the state of American politics to see that.
I guess that’s why I am still a poor slob.
March 24th, 2007 at 06:03 pm
The site looks very professional. I will enjoy the seeing this new chapter of Game Maker history unfold.
March 24th, 2007 at 06:57 pm
Sandy, I suggest you don’t call him the wrong name, because he once banned me of his forum for that…
I can’t wait for the amazing site!
March 24th, 2007 at 07:28 pm
Almost tempted to make some smart arsed comment
but i’ll pass for now.
BTW, since we are on the topic of Game Maker
I was wondering if anybody here can send me the Library Builder for GM6 - I have misplaced it and cannot find it, did an entire search think I accidently deleted it ages ago…It is nowhere to be found on MarK’s site although he still kept the builder5 (for GM5 :D) I am working on a big project and would like to have the Lib Builder for version 6 - so if any of you here would mind sneaking it over to me (nobody has to know :D)
Thanks
March 24th, 2007 at 09:47 pm
@Greg24: http://www.gamemaker.nl/download/lbuilder.zip
March 24th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
404 Not Pwned.
I mean, Not Found
March 25th, 2007 at 01:59 am
Where these taken in IE 7 | Firefox 2?
March 25th, 2007 at 03:28 am
IE 7 you can tell from this page:
http://yoyogames.eu/4.html
March 25th, 2007 at 04:50 am
Benjamin you might want to read posts before you hit the reply button
I already stated that the file is no longer on Mark’s site.
Why the hell would Mark remove this sure beats me, and the worst part he doesn’T reply.
March 25th, 2007 at 11:13 am
@Benoit:
Did you have to post it twice? It’s not my forum, it’s our forum.
March 25th, 2007 at 09:24 pm
Benjamin: http://gamefruit.loganoth.com/
I think you just failed.
March 25th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
i was just wondering has this been tested in firefox as i know tons of people who use firefox
March 25th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Are you trying to say he just got “pwn3d” ?
March 26th, 2007 at 02:46 am
Man, I thought getting “pwn2d” was harsh… I mean “pwn…” “pwn3…” “pwn3D” ! That is unheard of!
March 26th, 2007 at 03:01 am
Thats very nice, So are people limited to only one screenshot for game?
March 26th, 2007 at 07:37 am
Wow… those screens remind me of YouTube…
Especially the game upload screen. It’s (almost) the exact same as YouTube’s video upload.
Oh well, at least it’ll be familiar to lots of users.
Keep up the good work on the site! I can’t wait ’til it’s finished. Especially because the strategy game I’m working on will probably be done around the same time as this site.
March 26th, 2007 at 10:23 am
Nonsense ! One should not be limited to only 1 screenshot per game - Then you’ll have 12 year old game makers posting screenshots of their TITLE screen.
ALSO misleading screenshots should warrant a warning/ban
March 26th, 2007 at 11:37 am
No, misleading screenshots should result in download block until there are posted proper screenshots.
March 26th, 2007 at 01:04 pm
Greg.. it was a question not a statment.. dont start argueing ^^’
BTW Sandy, Ty for posting these lil teesers, it just what i was hopeing for when i suggested it in a previous thred. I am also very glad that your not in charge of web design ^ ^;; sorry.. but yeah.. lol.
Ah, you should also maybe make that baby RPG.. it looks intresting ^^’ honest.
March 26th, 2007 at 01:06 pm
They´re gonna need a 200 mod team to control that…
I say that 2 screenshots is good (one of the title screen and another of the loading screen XD, forget it). And if they can give the option to upload more (at the user´s will) even better. So something like 2 minimum, 6 maximum? What do you guys think?
March 26th, 2007 at 01:43 pm
@Daniel-Dane: Sorry for the double-posting! I was SURE the first comment didn’t go out! :-O And yes, it’s our forum, so I got banned from OUR forum.
March 26th, 2007 at 07:45 pm
What kind of a w*nker would ban you from their forum for not pronouncing their name right ?
I think you two gents should settle this (kindly get a room :D)
Now back to the Game Maker business - Yes I agree about the screenshots, there should be minimum 1 and maximum 6 is fairly enough. I think trailers should be allowed as well (movies, etc.) there again that will take some bandwidth, hmm….
So any plans for GM 8 yet ?
March 26th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Me, ….that’s who !!
….Gerg42…you’re banned !!! I’ve got your PI address and it will never appear again….at leats I think so …:-)…..
No plans for GM 8 that I can discuss yet…but there mightjustbe a 7.1 …. sooner rather than later….
Rgards,
Snady (I’m banned too !)
March 26th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Spandy….I mean, Sandy….is there going to be an online wish list for what people want to see in future versions of Game Maker? I would be curious to see how many people want certain things. For instance, I would love to see GM be able to create games for Palm OS and cell phones. But, for all I know, I may be the only person that would want that feature.
March 27th, 2007 at 12:23 am
Michael Brinkley: Ha ha ha! That’s got to be the most wanted feature! To be able to make games for other systems. (mac, palm, DS, Psp, ect…) Highly unlikely I believe. I wouldn’t mind such a wishlist myself. Although it would mostlikely get cluttered with worthless features. I would personaly like to see the abiltity to find out how many line of code I have.
Spamy, I mean, dansy.
Doesn’t the exclusive beta start today or tomorrow? The great day draws nearer! How many people are getting to see the exclusive beta? If you can give away that info.
Thanks!
-Elmernite
March 27th, 2007 at 01:23 am
You should know better, proper names should be capitalised - ban yourself!
As to GM 7.1, looks like more of a bug fix release than a new features release…… - So do you dare tell us when is it coming out ?
;)
I hope that GM8 will be a major milestone compared to GM6 -> GM7, I am hoping for a new rewrite, more optimised code, faster execution and a Library / extension builder, BUILT-IN game maker itself would be good.
And don’t take my word on the finger printing DRM I was just kidding ;-)))
March 27th, 2007 at 01:24 am
Oh BTW, if my name was Sandy and people called me “snady” I’d ban them too
March 27th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
“have 12 year old game makers” That was mean, I bet some of the 12 year olds can program better than you. True fact,some are smarter and more mature than older GM users. You “Greg24″ have posted enough, and stop talking about banning people, unless you want to get banned. Would you like to get banned?
March 27th, 2007 at 04:20 pm
“That was mean, I bet some of the 12 year olds can program better than you. True fact,some are smarter and more mature than older GM users.”
Perhaps, but they’re the exception, not the rule.
March 27th, 2007 at 04:36 pm
You don’t know the story behind it, so suck it up already.
March 27th, 2007 at 08:07 pm
GMMarine read the entiire thread, we are kidding around, read the context we were posting in before you foam at the mouth, little kid, go back to GMC, flamer, this is not the right place for a shoving match, go back to GMC forum and do your flaming there.- I agree with “yourself”, it is not the majority of kids that are smart and mature, at least not the case on the GMC forum - There are many out there but lately from what I’ve read on those forums not here. It seems a lot of kids have not gone through their “ZOMG ZOMG my gAm3z is z0000000 much better than j00″ phase, and you’ve clearly proven my point, mate, and honestly, having seen most of the games posted lately it is a big joke - Exception of 2 or 3 great games I have not seen anything to be proud of or to even qualify as skill so spare me the bollox, I have yet to see someone really make a half decent game with GM, I can only count a few…….
March 27th, 2007 at 08:10 pm
Oh and this is why I may have been wrong about yoyo - I now think it is a GREAT thing - And I hope that YoYo will really turn things around and help those who are SERIOUS about making games, and you immature, flaming kids can have your own sandbox to play in - The GM community has gone down hill lately, I hope (and know) Yoyo will change things, marine
March 27th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Sandy, when do you think (just a rough estimate, not an exact date) the beta site will be up and available? Within 1 week of today, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 1 month, between 1 - 2 months, 2 months, between 2 - 3 months, 3 months, more then 3 months?
By the way, the screenshots of the new site looks absolutely fabulious. If it works as good as it looks, you guys will have a winner! Great site design!
March 27th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
Greg, you were once that age, or you are that age now… I can’t really tell. The way you are acting, you are playing the role of the “12 year old n00b” and I’m the supposedly”the mature 16 year old.” Honestly, give the “little kids” a break, you should just ignore them, but that would be the mature thing to do, which is to far from your reach. I’m not a flamer, I just can’t stand it when people say ” ZOMG teh 12 yr olds are invadin!!11! run fo yo lifez” You should grow up, the 12 year olds will eventually grow up, so just leave them alone. Let them make crappy games, they will learn from them, you can’t ever get better if you don’t practice, that is what their doing. I know you said you were joking, but man, its not funny, you aren’t funny. Also, you don’t have to post after each other person, lay off the blog for a while, go program, if you can. You must have forgot the goal of Game Maker, a easy way to game development or a stepping stone to programming success. If you run the younger GM users off, you aren’t helping them. Who knows, maybe you already ran one off, maybe that programmer was destine to make a great game. Now, on topic xD: “Sandy, when do you think (just a rough estimate, not an exact date) the beta site will be up and available? Within 1 week of today, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 1 month, between 1 - 2 months, 2 months, between 2 - 3 months, 3 months, more then 3 months?” I don’t think It will really matter, as long as the site comes eventually, I’m happy.
March 27th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Arc 2-3 weeks…
Greg24 …as The Who once sang…”The kids are Allright”..they just have a different POV…doesn’t make them wrong !
Michael Brinkley….we’d like to see that too…everything takes time (and time is money !!)…..
March 27th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
Darn, my post is a little screwed up… Ignore the sentence order. >.
March 28th, 2007 at 01:21 pm
Why did I suddenly get another gm7 code? I knew it had happened before to other people, but I thought that bug had been fixed. Should I just delete it? Or send the email back to you? I won’t give it away or anything.
-Elmernite
March 28th, 2007 at 01:37 pm
I’ve got the same three times and another one one time.
March 28th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
What’s happening with the GLOG?! The images don’t appear suddenly! I am on Opera browser.
March 29th, 2007 at 01:12 am
GmMarine the only thing screwed up around here is you - this place was quiet before you arrived - Unless you are an admin you are not to give me orders got it ???
March 29th, 2007 at 03:41 am
There’s going to be so many noob submissions. I can’t wait to give out 0/5s to 95% of the games.
March 29th, 2007 at 04:47 am
Hey, can i ask what is the next phase in yo-yo games?
March 29th, 2007 at 02:12 pm
Greg, in some way he is right. You have been a bit TOO much rude lately.
March 29th, 2007 at 02:41 pm
Wow, guys, I see you were having some funny conversation here.
On topic (do these two words have any meaning here anymore?):
I also like the website’s design.
March 29th, 2007 at 02:48 pm
March 29th, 2007 at 04:03 pm
@Sandy: Oh… my… GOD! I would never have dreamt you do that to ME :O… Thanks ^^,
P.S. You can count on me
March 29th, 2007 at 04:53 pm
Can I put the banners from the site into my sig?
March 29th, 2007 at 05:48 pm
Daniel-Dane …yes, you can use the banners. I’m pleased you will behave yourself
March 29th, 2007 at 06:21 pm
And that comes from you…
March 30th, 2007 at 12:48 am
Now let’s play a game for everyone else: what do you think is happening between Daniel-Dane and Sandy?
March 30th, 2007 at 09:10 am
maybe its love
*Chronic knows the real answer*
March 30th, 2007 at 11:44 am
Takagi knows the real answer. Daniel, At first, I was scared, seeing your baby, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. I thought it was an illegitimate baby, but I was surprised that you and Sandy got married and somehow managed to er…. you know, do it. o_O
March 30th, 2007 at 02:31 pm
Why does this GLOG makes me feel like an adult?
March 30th, 2007 at 06:58 pm
Daniel-Dane …maybe you feel like an adult cos we treat you as an equal…?
benoitr007 and Chronic…I don’t believe in banning people…but if I did…..you guys would be on the candidate list
March 30th, 2007 at 06:59 pm
Takagi - you’re in trouble too
March 30th, 2007 at 08:22 pm
Yay, sympathy.
March 30th, 2007 at 08:39 pm
Anyone besides me bored?
March 30th, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Yep, me too…when is something gonna happen?
March 30th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
[quote]Takagi - you’re in trouble too[/quote]Age of consent is 16 where I live.
March 31st, 2007 at 12:33 am
“benoitr007 and Chronic…I don’t believe in banning people…but if I did…..you guys would be on the candidate list”
I don’t know if thats sarcasm or not :S
March 31st, 2007 at 01:08 am
I don’t know what’s happening at all! Why should I be banned? And what does the following mean: “Daniel, At first, I was scared, seeing your baby, but now that I think about it, it makes sense. I thought it was an illegitimate baby, but I was surprised that you and Sandy got married and somehow managed to er…. you know, do it. o_O”… Is it a JOKE?
March 31st, 2007 at 08:29 am
No, really. Everybody take a chillpill and visit the GMC instead.
March 31st, 2007 at 09:58 am
Daniel-Dane for once in your life you should practice what you preach - it’s you and GMMarine who are misinterpreting the tone and context of posts written here, maybe you two should indeed practice what you preach and don’t bother posting here if you take everything at heart, get a life.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:01 am
I sincerely hope that YoYogames will be up and running by the end of April, it’s time to get the ball rolling it’s been way too long- the sooner it happens the better and we won’t have to deal with tosspots!
March 31st, 2007 at 01:20 pm
Greg, would you please stop acting rude and behave yourself. I do not defend anyone but starting to attack the widest audience (the young ones) and ask for “bad” games to get removed is rude. I don’t attack you, I just want you to realize what you are saying.
March 31st, 2007 at 05:45 pm
Yes benoitroleau, it was a joke. [:D]
March 31st, 2007 at 09:07 pm
@Daniel-Dane - Ok I didn’t mean to offend anybody, let me rephrase this - Yes given the fact that GMC has mostly a younger audiance and given the recent events, postings and quality of games posted, I think it would be for the better of everyone if there were some set of rules - I’m not saying ban all the kids, I’ve seen some pretty damn good games made by kids (not made in GM, but made by very young ones) and I was impressed, no doubt, however, most of the material posted on GMC, and I am not being rude, but I am sure others have said this, are not of good quality and not representative of what GM can do - which is why I think YoYo games should not only act as a host to those games but also educate and encourage people to make good, original games by providing tutorials, tools, examples, better documentation, etc, in the long run YoYo games will gain an even bigger market, make more money and people will be encouraged to make better games.
I stand by my opinions that there should be a set of rules to avoid abusing the site and submitting bad games and a fair rating system based on the game and not the populairty of the person which is the case over at GMC, some people get 10/10 on games that would be worth a 2/10.
I am a bit disappointed - that all these years that Game Maker has been out, there has not been a significant number of exceptional games other than a handful that comes to mind - You can make full, non game applications using Game Maker . Also the maturity of a lot of the members on GMC is a lot to be desired and may actually push away some new members:
Things like:
“ZOMG ! j00r spr1t3za kix @$$” or silly threads and silly /incomplete requests, flame-inciting threads, I’m sorry if it sounds rude but I think there should be a major cleanup and some set of rules for the better of everyone - There is also a domino effect, you have GOOD kids joining a community and seeing all the mess and being PULLED IN and acting like the croud. Trust me, I’ve done it too
:D 
March 31st, 2007 at 09:25 pm
That was better :D. I see your point, but we can not restrict their rights. Normally bad games will go to the button. I think you should see the beta…
March 31st, 2007 at 10:21 pm
It looks like there will be a 6-star game rating system, so unlike in the GMC, the best games will be put on the top of the list.
March 31st, 2007 at 10:36 pm
The whole point I am trying to make is to control the environment and avoid abuse - I believe in fairness, all games should be given a fair chance and if a gave does suck so badly that the person be offered HELP in making it better as opposed to flames - People posting pranks, screamers, malicious programs or misleading descriptions should be warned however. As far as the star or a number rating system, there is very few games on GMC that would deserve more than 2 or 3 stars, mostly 2 !
March 31st, 2007 at 10:48 pm
Well, have you seen the beta, Gregory?
April 1st, 2007 at 06:36 am
LOL guess I’ll have to ban you now Daniel!
First, my name is not Greg or Gregory, my real name is Rimmer. Greg is just an alias!
Second, I saw the screenshots yes…..
April 1st, 2007 at 09:21 am
I know, just kidding. I am asking whether or not you have tried the beta?
April 1st, 2007 at 09:55 am
They’re sure taking their time… are we there yet? XD
April 1st, 2007 at 02:25 pm
Are we there yet? … …
(Also Rimmer that PM you sent me was very mean, I don’t read PM’s starting with a cuss word.)
April 1st, 2007 at 05:02 pm
You’d have to at least read the first word to determine that.
April 1st, 2007 at 05:47 pm
Well GMMarine, maybe you should read it carefuly then, tosspot, you’ll understand why i was “mean”……. You know very well what the PM is about if you choose to ignore it to avoid what you don’t want to hear, it isn’t my problem.
April 1st, 2007 at 06:26 pm
When [i]is[/i[ the full site coming out? We haven’t had much information from Sandy (not including discussions of marriage/bannation) so…
April 1st, 2007 at 06:48 pm
Rimmer (I know understand why you use an alias), you seem to have avoided my last question.
April 1st, 2007 at 07:22 pm
Yes, thank you Dr. Cakey for getting us back on track.
I belive the last round about date that he gave was 2-3 weeks. (Don’t qoute me on this, I just thought he mentioned something around that time period.)
I too, noticed the 6 star rating. While I think it nice to be different. I also like the fact that it doesn’t have a middle rating. So many people would play a game and then just give it a three out of five (calling it so-so game)
However, with an even number of ratings it will force the user to either give it a good or a bad rating.
-Elmernite
April 2nd, 2007 at 02:34 am
Yeah, I think it’s time to get back on track. O.o
April 2nd, 2007 at 04:22 am
Look who’s being arrogant now, Daniel-Dane - I answered your bloody question yeah ? I told you I saw the bloody screenshots - Do I need to spell it out for you ? YES I clicked on the link, it brings you to a site with screenshots - What more do you want me to tell you mate ? Or are you just being annoying just for the fun of it ?
April 2nd, 2007 at 07:50 am
Well, that means you haven’t tried the beta…
April 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
Lol, looks like somebody here has.
April 2nd, 2007 at 01:03 pm
Hey, I just asked.
April 2nd, 2007 at 09:49 pm
Meh, don’t be bragging Daniel. There are a ton of other users who have the beta link as well.
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 pm
wait, did i miss something? was the beta sent out to people…? i thought the beta was gonna be for everyone…
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pm
From what I believe, a private invite only beta is going on now.
You can see where Sandy mentioned in the last post of his past glog.
-Elmernite
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 pm
I am not bragging. Imagine that a noob here read that there was a (private) beta and then posted on the gmc and then the other noobs found out and started posting and spamming and pm’ing and what more. And then there is one who cracks the password and tells everybody and then an admin has to change the password. I am not bragging. Only take precautions.
And I wouldn’t call 26 a ton…
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 pm
taking*
gees
April 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 pm
Bloody hell Daniel-Dane re-read your last post on this GLOG ? Maybe it’s time you start practicing what you preach - If you don’t consider your last post as “RUDE” then you have major problems. AS far as I know, mate, you are the only “n00b” around these parts, second to GMMarine ! What the hell does it matter to you whether I tried the beta or not ? Yes I visited the link given and I got an idea of the layout, I thought I made it specific that I did, maybe if you pull your head out of your arse once in a while and pay attention I wouldn’t have to repeat the same things again.
April 3rd, 2007 at 02:13 am
Greg24, having followed almost the whole discussion (at least the last few messages), I am sorry to tell you that but Daniel is right. He just wanted to know if you tried the beta - and you always replied that you DID SEE THE SCREENSHOTS. There is a big difference between trying the private beta of the website and looking at the public screenshots. So you repeated the same things again and again but only because YOU didn’t understand what was going on. Now the question that I ask to everybody: why? Let’s try to help our Mr. Greg24 who is present right here. I think we can all be helpful psychologists for you my friend!
Problem #1: He considers the last post of Daniel as rude. I can read that last post (the one posted on April 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 pm) over and over, and it’s really not rude. Anyone has an idea? Yes, you, elmernite?
April 3rd, 2007 at 02:54 am
How about I start first, tool.
#1 The whole point of this is that he called me out saying I was rude to talk about 12 year old game makers - Yet he is referring to “n00bs of GMC”, sounds like an issue of Pot calling the kettle black here, clearly, if you can’t see it, then you should get treated too you condescending old nob. Simple concept mate - you flame me I flame back, if you are to call me out and tell me what to do and not do, don’t go around and doing the opposite, because I’ll call you out too. I did it for GMmarine, did it with Daniel-Dane, and will do it with any of you prats here who want to stir up the pot !
#2 “PRIVATE BETA” you said it yourself - I was specific that I clicked on the site link and saw the screenshots, if I bloody have to spell it out for you that’s another thing - No I did not get any private links, then again I haven’t checked my e-mail box lately - but whatever it is, why the HELL are you lot making an issue over this, what does it have to do with this conversation ? What will it matter if I tried it or not ? Will go check my e-mail now, meanwhile Daniel-Dane, (going around calling people n00bs) maybe you could “ENLIGHTEN US n00bs” on your expertise and make yourself useful instead of being a prat ! Would do us all good.
April 3rd, 2007 at 04:27 am
Calm down guys. This is the reason why I don’t visit the Community forum.
“And I wouldn’t call 26 a ton…”
Well, a potential of 70 or so members (maybe 80 something?) have access to the beta. That’s what I’d call a ton for something so new. That’s just my meek opinion.
Now when I said to you Daniel, to not go around saying “I have tried the beta”, this is the reason why, because people will envy you, flame you, and start ranting about why they don’t have the link to the beta. That’s not good, and is why I wasn’t really all too enthusiastic about others coming in to the test.
To Greg24:
“No I did not get any private links, then again I haven’t checked my e-mail box lately”
No, as far as I remember, this sort of thing is sent via GMC PM.
April 3rd, 2007 at 09:19 am
Okay. Let me fix some misunderstanding here;
1. I never called you an noobie. I was talking about real noobs (you are not one, you know that). Again, imagine a noob that saw our conversation and told about it on the GMC. They found out who had access and who not. And, WHY DO I HAVE TO REPEAT MYSELF? The point is, do not go around and tell it!
Greg, I am sorry you have misunderstood me the whole time. I was just asking whether or not you had access to the private beta. Because you seem very interested in what’s going on. And you have some strong opinions about this, that is why I think you should have access.
And last but not least, Roy:
Where do you have your information from? It would be nice to know :).
And thanks for repeating me about the “do not go around and tell everyone”-part.
P.S. I got a very personal email from Sandy man (isn’t Sandy also a female name) himself, not a PM.
April 3rd, 2007 at 09:22 am
Remember, I am not mad at you, Greg. We two have misunderstood each other from time to time. The only one I “hate” is Sandy — for making fun with me and my name the whole time.
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 am
greg24….check your email
jls900…we’re still in private beta…so you haven’t misssed anything important yet.
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:37 pm
“The only one I “hate” is Sandy — for making fun with me and my name the whole time.”
I suppose that was a joke, right?
Oh, Sandy - If that can make a difference; I am a GM user since version 1.2. I was one of the first users to go on the old (the first) GM forum, and I really enjoy this whole project.
I am saying this if it can make a difference… something like “benoitr007….check your email :D”
lol
April 3rd, 2007 at 02:13 pm
So will there still be a beta released to all? Or is the private beta what you meant when you said that your close to the beta release?
And benoitr007, i doubt asking for the beta and showing a little resume is gonna get you it, no no you gotta be much more sneakier then that
~ Jls900
P.S. If the beta was sent out, does that mean your near completion of the site and just looking for bugs? I hope so.
April 3rd, 2007 at 03:03 pm
@Benoit; it was not a joke.
@Jls900: The current beat version is 0.901 so I guess it’s near.
“And benoitr007, i doubt asking for the beta and showing a little resume is gonna get you it”
I just said “He likes me the better” and then I received a very personal email :D.
“P.S. If the beta was sent out, does that mean your near completion of the site and just looking for bugs? I hope so.”
The main site should be near done — from what I see. But the forum and wiki are far from done yet.
April 3rd, 2007 at 03:04 pm
The current beta version…
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:11 pm
There is so much hate around here why can’t we all get along ?
Ok Sandy I will check my e-mail hope i’m not in trouble
:D 
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:43 pm
UPDATE: Ok yes major misunderstanding indeed - I thought by beta you meant the test site with the screenshots
Ok I checked my e-mail and yes now I went to the right site - I don’t have much time right now so I took a quick look and it looks and it looks very promising - I like the ability for messages / comments to be made not just a star rating.
But here is one suggestion I would like to make - forgive me if the feature is there and I overlooked it, there should be a section and a rating system for all NON GAME submissions - by that I mean libraries, extensions and applications - Yes you CAN make windows applications and tools with GM too, and have a GAMES section - I think all non games including tutorial packs etc should also be rated too.
BTW, some of the games submitted have an unusually higher rating than they deserve
Hover tank may be considered one of the best games, BUT it does not make use of ground textures other than a solid colour, so it is overrated IMO 
April 3rd, 2007 at 11:54 pm
D= couldnt you of posted your comments somewhere else?! your rubbing it in! Not all of us got the beta! lucky!
P.S. He likes me the better
April 4th, 2007 at 03:07 am
LOL !!! Where the hell else ? If I were to post that comment on GMC I would get 500 PMs with “ZOMG I want the deetz PLZ PLZ PLZ”, I think Daniel-Dane was right about not a good idea for GMC to find out, only he used the term n00b - which is n00bish in a sense
Anyways in due time you will get it - it’s just like the Publisher’s Clearing House - One day you get a knock on your door and it’s Ed McMahon saying that you won 10 million smacking dollars
Your turn will come.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Yeah, you should have checked the beta forum. There is a topic on how to post suggestions, bugs reports and so on.
April 4th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Yeah, my game is over-rated because I chose to use a certain style, instead of just throwing textures everywhere. Bravo Greg.
Granted, the listings, ratings, comments, and such on the YoYo Games Beta site are just temporary anyway. The database is going to be scrubbed before the site is released, so you can rest at ease that things will not stay as they are now in the current beta - and you’ll get your chance to correct any injustices you feel exist.
April 5th, 2007 at 01:51 am
Settle down mate!
I didn’t say that your game sucked - Next to many other games it’s probably very good - but not worthy of a 5 star rating IMO - As to using textures, you could have used one for the ground instead of a solid color and wireframe look - This is exactly my point I think people rate games based on the popularity and status of a given user and not the game - Totaly biased IMO - This is like if I were to post a game that is better than yours, you’d probably purposely give me a poor ratings because you are mad that I criticised your game - That’s what I predict will happen and remember I am very good with predictions remember I am the one who did predict that the DRM will cause problems, surely it did - I predicted that cracks would come out, surely within the same week of the release. And now you have people sharing a GM5/6/7 EXE decompiler, all of which I predicted.
So trust me, the ratings system will be abused! Ask a 12 year old (which seems to be the average age of the GMC) to fairly rate a game is like asking your kids to hate chocolate chip cookies and icecream
April 5th, 2007 at 02:59 am
Man, what’s wrong Greg24? You seem so hateful in your messages, but then you add some happy smilies and you say settle down! You’re probably right about the rating system, but Hover Tank 3D DEFINITELY earns 5/6 (and probably a little more). As Fred said the solid color is to give a specific style to the game, and if you don’t like it at least consider the effort and the actual game. I don’t know about a 12 year old but ANYBODY can have trouble to ”fairly” rate a game, because so many factors enter in consideration (comparisons with other games of that genre, with other genres, graphics, sounds, controls, …) so please stop with your ice cream jokes (I DIDN’T LAUGH AT ALL). I personnally think a rating system can never be 100% fair, but it’s up to the users to decide what they base their choices on. Oh, and - I think you don’t know FredFredrickson at all…
April 5th, 2007 at 04:34 am
“[I]…predicted that cracks would come out”
Hah, if that prediction makes you a good predictor, I ought to be telling fortunes for a living.
“And now you have people sharing a GM5/6/7 EXE decompiler”
GM6 and 5 decompilers have been around for quite a while.
So the only real prediction that I think that has some merit is that of the DRM issues, but then again, that’s not much of a prediction as it is an observation that most people don’t like DRM’s.
So all in all, your predictions aren’t that slight, rather, they were all very possible.
April 5th, 2007 at 04:47 pm
Sandy, (sorry to go off topic, guys) I really want to know something. It`s about paying with a bank transfer.
On 17th march 2007 I sent a question to admin@yoyogames.com asking for your BIC and IBAN numbers. Two days later, on the 19th, i got an answer containing only the IBAN number. On 03/26/07 I sent another mail asking you for the BIC number. But there`s still no reply! Can I get my answer or not?
April 5th, 2007 at 08:55 pm
Wow, I have been following this whole conversation between Daniel-Dane and Greg24. Good god, can you BOTH grow up and stop arguing like a bunch of n00bs? And yes, I DID call you a n00b.
April 5th, 2007 at 09:27 pm
What is your problem?
April 5th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
Daniel-Dane, you’re just provoking an argument. You should know better.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Sorry. I just didn’t get what he said. That didn’t make any sense attacking us in such an immature way.
Thanks for telling me, mother Roy :D.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
didnt make any since attacking you in such a immature way? he clearly said why he was attacking you, and your calling him immature why? because he told you all to stop arguing? comments on a glog are made for commenting on a update like “yay, nice pics! looking forward to it!” and not for having childish arguments.
April 5th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
I guess there’s something both Daniel-Dane and Takagi can do: There’s a link called “Logout” on top of the reply box. Click that instead of “Submit Comment”. Now let’s get back on the topic about YoYo’s new system and stay away from Daniel-Dane and Takagi’s fray. (Nice rhyme, huh?)
I have yet to receive the *exclusive* invitation to the beta, but I do see a nice portal in the making. I hope that this will make the true GM stars shine instead of making them specks of sand at night in a desert. The original GMC didn’t fare well, and that’s a fact. Let’s see what the future holds…
April 5th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
“The original GMC didn’t fare well, and that’s a fact.”
Personally, I don’t see what’s wrong with it… it serves it’s main purpose (helping people learn how to use GM), and pretty much everyone gets a chance to post something they made and be on the front page for a while. Can’t ask for much more than that.
April 6th, 2007 at 12:18 am
Kinda biased opinion since you are a moderator on the said GMC, I agree about the comments about not faring well - It is ridden with power hungry moderators who have closed so many topics without valid reasons - Not all but some posts and threads including one of mine which was a very legitimate questions.
Truth of the mattor I don’t like you at all Fred or whatever the hell your real name is, you are a windup merchant, nothing more, and despite that I would not let my feelings about a certain individual impair my rating of your game, don’t get me wrong, i didn’t make those comments about your game because I hate your bloody guts. The GMC has too many moderators, mostly immature, arrogant and power hungry, no wonder some GOOD people are leaving - Make a poll about this and you will see that a majority don’t like the moderators, “YOURSELF” and “FREDERIC” are the two most ARROGANT mods on the GMC - if people complain that the community is going downhill there is a reason.
As to Dark who the hell said we were fighting, there was a misunderstanding between Daniel and I and it got resolved and you come here stirring the pot, why don’t you take the bloody door and don’t let it hit you on the way out or next time before writing rubbish make sure you read the ENTIRE thread of a conversation!
April 6th, 2007 at 12:35 am
@Dark, Jls900 & Xekkosoft:
Why are you people nagging us. Can’t you leave us alone? We haven’t done you anything. Saying we were arguing and calling us noobs and whatever is a childish behavior. I am not going to start a flame war. But could you leave us alone?
April 6th, 2007 at 01:04 am
“Not all but some posts and threads including one of mine which was a very legitimate questions.”
Greg, many of the questions you and others asked were indeed legitimate questions… but they were questions for YoYo Games, and not for the general community, to answer. That is why many topics were closed.
“The GMC has too many moderators, mostly immature, arrogant and power hungry, no wonder some GOOD people are leaving”
Who is power hungry? What have we done that is so unfair? All of us are unpaid and work voluntarily, and most of us I think, do a good job of remaining objective while dealing with problem users. We are not causing anyone (especially good members) to leave, because good members know how to behave, and don’t cause problems for the staff and for other users. Who are these good members who are leaving, anyway?
“Make a poll about this and you will see that a majority don’t like the moderators, “YOURSELF” and “FREDERIC” are the two most ARROGANT mods on the GMC - if people complain that the community is going downhill there is a reason.”
Honestly, I don’t know why you would call me arrogant. What do I do that makes me seem self absorbed? I don’t act like anyone owes me anything on the GMC, and with good reason - nobody does owe me anything. Aside from closing topics on the community forum now and then, I don’t do anything there besides post my work and help people in the 3D section. Except for you, Greg, and 1 or 2 other members, I can’t recall anyone saying the community is going downhill anyway.
Really though, I don’t know what you expect to happen with the YYG site, because the same people are going to be there as on the GMC now. : /
April 6th, 2007 at 01:36 am
Well then it won’t work out - I think there should be MAJOR changes, including new moderators and yes getting new people to join - Very few people actually are familiar enough with GM to make decent games, you are one of them, but this place needs more people.
BTW, time to move on to a second version of your game and this time you can use the unreal 3 engine - I’ll give you 6 stars if you do
April 6th, 2007 at 02:21 am
Heh, well when I do make a second version, I’ll probably stick to GM, for tradition’s sake… and because I like pushing GM to it’s limits.
I am glad that you will at least reason with me on the closed topics and such though, Greg. There’s no need for animosity between the forum staff and the members, and I do not like to facilitate that.
Really though, I don’t think it will hurt the YYG site at all if the GMC mods work as mods there too… we may close a lot of topics in the community forum and such, but really, we don’t have that much control over what people make of themselves, either at the GMC or anywhere else.
This may be getting slightly off topic, but I think it’s pertinent - Greg, how would you see the GMC change if there were a different staff enforcing the same rules?
April 6th, 2007 at 03:30 am
I think people should be allowed to express their opinions GOOD or BAD about a product or company as long as the member does not engage in PERSONAL attacks against a PERSON or engages in slandering and writing false information aimed at hurting a business or individual, I think it is fair to allow the member to express himself/herself - Maybe a special section of a forum could be used for that - People who go around saying “Yoyo sucks” or purposely posts hateful material aimed without arugmenting and giving facts, I agree, these topics should be dealt with, but many people have criticised and offered the reasons why, which IMO are valid concerns………
I had my own thread about a very legit question on how to disable certain keys during execution of a game to disallow hackers to install trainers, hacks, etc………and immediately my post was closed following an arrogant reply by “yourself” (the mod). Mark has been criticised and flamed many times by members over at GMC and he has always treated people respectfuly and never closed threads.
April 6th, 2007 at 03:38 am
To Greg24- I didn’t say ‘fighting’, I said ‘arguing’. Read the post and get it right next time. Theres a major difference.
April 6th, 2007 at 03:46 am
Well, don’t hold me in the same regard as Yourself… we’re different people, and he usually handles things a lot differently than I would.
I also believe that people should be able to express their opinions, but long before I became a staff member at the GMC, someone made the decision that the GMC should be for talking about Game Maker and helping people learn it, first and foremost, which meant no off topic forum, which, in turn, meant no off topic discussion.
You’ll see that we certainly do allow people to express their opinions where they are entitled though. Various people around the GMC have anti-YYG / GM7 messages in their sigs. We don’t change these because, like I mentioned, we are not trying to censor you. The problem lies in the (erroneous) belief that the community forum is a place for people to vent about why they hate stuff - of course, that’s not what it’s for.
So when people get angry about something not working, instead of going directly to YoYo Games (or Softwrap, or whoever), they want to get some anger off their chest, and they use the forum for that. We find these posts, close them (because they are against the rules), and then the person gets even angrier, and starts thinking that the staff has some sort of vendetta against him. And things escalate, and get out of hand, etc, etc.
Even if these topics were allowed though, what good would they serve the community? The people who have bad things to say would say them, and that’d be it. How does that help the community at large, especially when most of the people who post these sorts of things are merely mis-informed… do you have any idea how many posts we’ve had about how terrible the YoYo Games banner in the lower left corner of GM7 is, despite the fact that anyone who has actually used the program knows it’s removable?
It’s a decent idea, but when you think about it, it just doesn’t work. If you really want a place to post off topic things among members of the GMC, try GMOT (http://gmot.chronic667.com). It’s an entire forum for off topic stuff!
April 6th, 2007 at 05:39 am
“I had my own thread about a very legit question on how to disable certain keys during execution of a game to disallow hackers to install trainers, hacks, etc………and immediately my post was closed following an arrogant reply by “yourself” (the mod).”
I certainly don’t remember that. I can’t even find the post you’re referring to. The only possibility is that it was made so long ago that it got deleted in one of our infrequent mass topic prunings. That’s really longer than anyone should hold a grudge, I think.
It isn’t really fair to me, either. I don’t believe I’ve said anything arrogant ever. Sarcastic, blunt, possibly rude, but not arrogant.
April 6th, 2007 at 09:17 am
You only remember what you want you arrogant little tosser - Let me refresh your memory - That post I wrote about how to disable ALT-TAB so that people would not get out of a game to run cheats etc……..you wrote a very rude reply and closed my topic - Run a search assuming you keep all posts it’s there! Shortly after I DID get PMs of people who DO hate your guts and think you are an arrogant S.O.B. so spare me the bollox, you are the FIRST person I think who doesn’t deserve to be a mod! I’ll tell you why you don’t remember, I mean out of the other 2000 threads you’ve locked, it would be difficult for people with half a functioning brain, like “yourself”, to remember….. Oh and take some advice - Change your nick, it SUCKS and makes you look like a bigger n00b than you already are!
April 6th, 2007 at 10:27 am
i think you are the n00b here greg24. Yourself is a great mod. One of my favourie, as it would appear.
April 6th, 2007 at 11:02 am
I feel some electricity in the air. Bad karma!
April 6th, 2007 at 01:03 pm
I just found out where that picture with the lights came from…
April 6th, 2007 at 01:06 pm
That picture in “Sandy’s Home” is Archie. (i think)
April 6th, 2007 at 03:06 pm
“Run a search assuming you keep all posts it’s there!”
Didn’t you even read what I said? I did perform a search for the topic. I went through pages of my own posts even after simply looking through all the topics you’ve posted that were still on the forum. As I said, it must have been removed in a mass pruning. The last time we performed a mass pruning was, I think, in November. Unless it was in the community forum, it’s unlikely that anything that was active within the last 3 months would have been removed. So whatever happened, it happened a long time ago. I don’t remember these things because I’m not out to get anyone nor do I have any sort of personal vendetta against anyone. If I was rude, I’m sorry, I can be that way sometimes.
Yes, there are a lot of people that hate me and I don’t think anyone has really any good reason to. People start getting mad at me and flaming me in PM for topics I didn’t even close _or_ reply to. Most of the time I hadn’t even read the topic in question until I get flamed for being so unjust.
Even worse is when people don’t even give me a chance. I close their topic once and they hold it against me forever. And then when I do decide to have a rational discussion about it, I just get insults thrown at me.
April 6th, 2007 at 05:13 pm
Feels like I’m listening to a soap opera
April 6th, 2007 at 08:34 pm
So how do can I get in on this beta?
April 6th, 2007 at 08:51 pm
Well, that which characterizes Yourself is his sarcastic — sometime even intellectual (because most sarcasm isn’t) — humor/comments. I laugh when I read his closing comments.
For example once he closed a topic of muslimpower’s where muslimpower complained about bugs. He closed it with a “I know some bugs I wanna get rid of too”… Wait, wasn’t that Chronic? Eeeeeither way, you know what I mean.
April 6th, 2007 at 08:54 pm
Btw, which mod has send Sandy after me?
April 6th, 2007 at 08:57 pm
I have a question